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An Interview with Larry Niven
By S. James Blackman

special to space.com

posted: 07:47 pm ET
10 February 2000

Larry Niven is a legend in the rarefied world of hard science fiction Larry Niven is a legend in the rarefied world of hard science fiction.

His work is characterized by infectious technophilia, a facility with making real science integral to surprising plot twists, and brilliant extrapolation from cutting edge science -- Niven does his homework.


What are you reading now?

I just finished Barbara Hambly's Fever Season, a historical mystery. I'm in the middle of Greg Bear's Darwin's Radio. Recommend: A Deepness in the Sky, by Vernor Vinge.


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What do you think is the relationship between science and science fiction?

We follow the scientists around and look over their shoulders. They're watching their feet: provable mistakes are bad for them. We're looking as far ahead as we can, and we don't get penalized for mistakes.

Why is space important?

For 50 years or so the answer has kept changing. Today:

The wealth of the universe is all over your head. We need to take command of the solar system to gain that wealth, and to escape the sea of paper our government is becoming, and for some decent chance of stopping a Dinosaur Killer asteroid.

But since I was a kid I've just wanted to go.

Early in your career, you predicted crewed missions to Mars by this time. You have observed that the bottleneck seems to be in the high cost of launching materials into earth orbit. What technologies most excite you in terms of their ability to overcome this obstacle?

Everyone I know backed Rockwell's Delta Clipper, one of the designs that lost out to Venturestar. I watched Gary Hudson's Roton with some hope. But I think we should bite the bullet, cancel some treaties and go nuclear: finish building NERVA.

Arthur C. Clarke believes that a comprehensive and well-funded program to track near-Earth asteroids (Project Spaceguard) should be amongst the highest priorities of mankind's space exploration initiative.

Given that your own novel Lucifer's Hammer (with Jerry Pournelle) describes the effects of a major asteroid collision event, do you agree with Clarke's concern? How do you envision such a system? What about its potential for misuse as a weapon?

It should be done.

Start with current telescopes -- which have become near-magical. Weapon? How do you use a telescope as a weapon? But any device that could stop or turn a Hamner-Brown Comet would have to be guarded.

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena features strongly in your novel Footfall (with Jerry Pournelle). Do you visit often? If so, what is your favorite memory of JPL?

It's described in the beginning of Footfall -- the couple of days when information was flowing back from Voyager One, and all the hard SF writers gathered to watch.

Who was there?

Jerry Pournelle
Poul and Karen Anderson
their daughter Astrid Anderson and her husband Greg Bear
Bjo and John Trimble
Robert and Ginny Heinlein-- this time or the next, our house guests
Robert Forward
Jim and Valerie Ransom

I can't be 100 percent certain of all these, and I must have forgotten a good many.

Your 1974 essay "Bigger than Worlds" appears in George Zebrowski and Greg Benford's forthcoming anthology Skylife: Space Habitats in Science and Story. In it you talk about the various types of engineering possible in space-- from small space stations to your own Ringworld. Now that time has given you more perspective on the issues involved, and given us Skylab, Mir, and the oft-delayed International Space Station, what would you like to see next?

Anything beats an expensive stack of paper. We've fallen way behind. Building one space station for everyone was and is insane: we should have built a dozen.

Your Known Space series prominently features commercial exploitation of mineral resources in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Now that this possibility is beginning to receive serious consideration, do you feel that any of the credit for this is yours? Given NASA's recent and forthcoming flybys of asteroids and comets, how far off do you think fulfillment of your vision is? Do you see private sector involvement as likely?

I was following an earlier writer, Randall Garrett, whose vision of asteroid belt civilization seemed entirely plausible. The facts have changed since, of course. I'm scrambling to keep up.

We've always wanted to believe in "private sector" space -- hucksters make better characters than a government does.

You're a predictor and extrapolator of no small ability. I am sure our readers would love to hear what new technology or technologies you feel will be most important or promising in the next century.

I love superconductors. I've pictured a huge fusion plant on the Greenland ice cap -- big enough that fusion can work, economies of scale, etc. -- and lasers sending power into space while superconducting cables run under the ocean to the world's continents.

Cheap superconductors imply maglev trains everywhere. Computers could get big again, with RAM/ROM rising by powers of forty and fifty, if superconductors shed the heat.

Laser handguns against superconducting armor. I'm not predicting; I just love playing with superconductors.

In the same vein as the last question, looking back at your three and a half decades in SF, what are you most proud of having gotten right? What do you feel you got most spectacularly wrong, by way of failure to predict or just plain being wrong?

We should not have assumed that a political space station could be built. We'd have most of what we predicted of the conquest of space, if we hadn't ignored parasite control. The wealth (as in flying cars) predicted by Heinlein and his followers (including myself) was another matter. It all went to welfare programs.

Vast numbers of people are microscopically better off for that, except that we all have less to aspire to.

Here is where the predictions failed: We didn't take Cargo Cult mentality into account [that being] "if somebody has something I don't, he must have stolen it."

We didn't understand how good we could get at communication -- when you have something that someone else doesn't, the whole damn planet knows it. But the space defense initiative drove the USSR bankrupt, and it originated at my house in Tarzana.

Who are your favorite SF authors at the moment?

I'd offend friends if I answered that. But Neil Gaiman may be the best short story writer alive; he's not just comic books. [Stephen] Baxter may have the furthest reach, unless it's Vernor Vinge. Terry Pratchett is the funniest. Stephen King is the scariest; any writer knows how good he is after reading Misery.

After a 16-year hiatus, you returned to Known Space for The Ringworld Throne. Can we expect more books set in this immensely popular universe? Also, what's next in general?

In general, I don't know when inspiration will pop up. But I'm massaging an outline for a fourth Ringworld book. Due from Simon & Shuster in March 2000 is a thick novel that took eight years to write: The Burning City, by me and Jerry Pournelle. Due in May from Tor: Saturn's Race, an ambitious near-future novel by me and Stephen Barnes.

What question, if any, have you always wished an interviewer would ask? What's the answer?

If I knew such a question, I'd have written it up in a speech, turned it into an article and sold it two or three times already. If I knew the answer, even better.
 
 


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