Stephen Colbert Says Elon Musk Is Either a Supervillain or a Superhero

Colbert Interviews Musk
SpaceX CEO and entrepreneur Elon Musk was a guest on the second episode of "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert," on Sept. 2, 2015. (Image credit: The Late Show with Stephen Colbert/CBS)

Elon Musk appeared on "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" last night (Sept. 9) to talk about dropping nuclear bombs on Mars, the future of rocket travel, and a creepy, snakelike robot for electric-car owners.

"Are you sincerely trying to save the world?" Colbert asked Musk early in the interview, which covered a wide range of topics, including Musk's ideas about settling Mars (which he called a "fixer-upper of a planet"), and what he considered the biggest challenge of the 21st century. You can watch the full interview via CBS here

Musk replied quietly to Colbert's question by saying, "I'm trying to do good things, yeah." Colbert fired back, "You're trying to do good things and you're a billionaire. That seems a little bit like either superhero or supervillain. You have to choose one." [Photos: SpaceX's Amazing Falcon 9 Reusable Rocket Prototype]

Musk is, among other things, founder and CEO of SpaceX, a private spaceflight company that is scheduled to start transporting astronauts to the International Space Station in 2017. The entrepreneur has been a vocal advocate of not only sending humans to Mars, but of engineering the Red Planet so humans could live on its surface outside of enclosed habitats.

"Mars is a fixer-upper of a planet," Musk told Colbert. How would humans make the Red Planet easier to live on? First, by warming it up, which Musk said could be achieved either by generating greenhouse gasses to trap heat (the "slow method"), or by dropping thermonuclear weapons near the poles (the "fast method").

The pair discussed SpaceX's attempts to make reusable rockets, which Musk said would be essential for lowering the cost of spaceflight. The pair watched a clip of a Falcon 9 rocket crashing into a ship during an attempt to recover the rocket after it successfully sent a payload into space. After watching the footage, Musk said he and SpaceX are "feeling sad, but happy at the same time […] because if we could reduce the landing velocity, we could get it to land and stay upright and not explode."

"That is one of the goals of rockets," Colbert said. "Not to explode."

But the late-night talk-show host took a small break from the bantering to express great admiration for the entrepreneur.

"One of the things I like about what you do is that your vision of the future — it's very hopeful; it is … fixable," Colbert said. "In the world, there's so much despair; there's people throwing up their hands at the problems of the world that can't be solved. You think we can put our minds to it and actually make it a better place."

Musk told Colbert that the "most important thing we need to solve this century is sustainable energy." Musk is CEO of Tesla Motors (Colbert said he owns a Tesla and loves it), CEO of SpaceX and chairman of SolarCity, an energy services company that, among other things, sells solar panel systems for homes.

At one point in the interview, Musk and Colbert watched a video of a snakelike robot built by Tesla Motors that will automatically plug in a Tesla electric car in a garage. But even Musk admitted that the slithery movement of the robot is somewhat disconcerting, saying, "This looks a little wrong."

Colbert said the bot looked like "the thing that jacks into the back of Neo's head in "The Matrix." When Colbert asked, jokingly, if it would attack him in his sleep, Musk had a serious reply: "For the prototype, at least, I would recommend not dropping anything when you're near it," he said.

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Calla Cofield
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Calla Cofield joined's crew in October 2014. She enjoys writing about black holes, exploding stars, ripples in space-time, science in comic books, and all the mysteries of the cosmos. Prior to joining Calla worked as a freelance writer, with her work appearing in APS News, Symmetry magazine, Scientific American, Nature News, Physics World, and others. From 2010 to 2014 she was a producer for The Physics Central Podcast. Previously, Calla worked at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City (hands down the best office building ever) and SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory in California. Calla studied physics at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst and is originally from Sandy, Utah. In 2018, Calla left to join NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory media team where she oversees astronomy, physics, exoplanets and the Cold Atom Lab mission. She has been underground at three of the largest particle accelerators in the world and would really like to know what the heck dark matter is. Contact Calla via: E-Mail – Twitter