Moon Landings Faked?

by **jim48** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:37 pm

I'm shocked when I talk about the Apollo program with young people today. I should say shocked by how many of them say "I've heard that was faked," or "My dad says that was all faked." !!!!!!!!!!!! Remember the 1978 movie Capricorn One, in which they faked a Mars landing? That one was so bad it was good! Okay. Anyone out here believe that the moon landings were faked, and if so, why?

by **MeteorWayne** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:13 am

Jim, there are dozens of threads on this subject in The Unexplained. This is for serious discussion of the Apollo 11 Anniversery, so I am going to move this thread there and probably merge it with one of the existing ones.

I'll leave a link here for a day or two.

Wayne

by **SpeedFreek** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:17 pm

Anyone who thinks the moon landings might have been faked should be pointed in the direction of http://www.clavius.org

by **MeteorWayne** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:31 pm

That's an amazing site, which I highly recommend. If anyone is serious about the issue, there's a few good hours to be spent there.

Anyone who is not willing to spend the time reading all that is there is not serious.

by **3488** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:06 pm

Hi SpeedFreek, thanks for the link that debunks the woo woo conspiracy nonsense. Great one. :mrgreen:

MeteorWayne wrote:That's an amazing site, which I highly recommend. If anyone is serious about the issue, there's a few good hours to be spent there.

Anyone who is not willing to spend the time reading all that is there is not serious.

I agree totally Wayne & I'm so fed up with this that I will not even comment, but Speedfreek's link is very, very good at giving the woo woos a good hammering. :mrgreen:

I agree that this does not belong in the Apollo 11 dedication thread.

Andrew Brown.

by **jim48** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:46 pm

MeteorWayne wrote:Jim, there are dozens of threads on this subject in The Unexplained. This is for serious discussion of the Apollo 11 Anniversery, so I am going to move this thread there and probably merge it with one of the existing ones.

I'll leave a link here for a day or two.

Wayne

I agree. Apologies, apologies.

by **krash** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:24 pm

It is silly to think the moon landings were faked.

I have very little tolerance for people that even suggest it...

by **Cpickens89** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:30 am

my god i wanna say stuff that would get ejected from the site to people that say it was faked especially when all they are is ignorent and run there mouths about what the heard from others

PATHETIC

its not faked how many times does it gotta be proven...

by **jim48** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:28 am

In my own defense, it cannot be denied that there's a whole generation out there that has some serious doubts about the reality of our moon landings. I think that sucks. The Apollo astronauts have been asked over the years about that as well and I think that sucks, too. This is not about woo-woo, it's about perception. There are really a lot of folks out there who think it was all made up. Wayne, you might want to hang on to this thread because it is relevant, like it or not.

by **JasonChapman** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:48 am

Not this old chestnut again, every time an apollo anniverssary comes around this conspiracy theory rears its ugly head.

by **ZenGalacticore** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:54 am

This again. Why would we fake it SIX TIMES! For all the trouble that would've been, we may as well've really gone at least ONCE! An estimated 400,000 engineers, technicians, and even janitors were involved in the Apollo program. Jesus-nightlight-Christ! Two people can't keep a secret-if it's three, it's no longer a secret- much less hundreds of thousands.

And if we faked the SIX LUNAR LANDINGS, then the Soviets would have had to be in on the conspiracy as well.

Balderdash!!!

by **OmegaOm** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:46 pm

I am in the middle on the belief of Americans men on the moon. There is good evidence both ways. But what really gets me is why we have not seen proof. Japan postponed their moon probe for many years, it even originally had a camera that could resolve the artifacts left by the Apollo astronauts, then they changed it. Now Nasa has a moon probe that supposedly can resolve 1 meter. I seen the striking images a few days ago. Why are they not proving that they were on the moon with this satellite. I am sure they could of modified the flight path somehow.
It is Nasa's arrogance, that they do not have to offer more proof of the moon landing, that makes them look guilty.

Either way, within 10 years we should know for sure if Americans were the first to land on the moon. If they did not, the secret can not last forever. If they did, then end this conspiracy theory soon.

by **onesmallstep** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:38 am

OmegaOm wrote:I am in the middle on the belief of Americans men on the moon. There is good evidence both ways. But what really gets me is why we have not seen proof. Japan postponed their moon probe for many years, it even originally had a camera that could resolve the artifacts left by the Apollo astronauts, then they changed it. Now Nasa has a moon probe that supposedly can resolve 1 meter. I seen the striking images a few days ago. Why are they not proving that they were on the moon with this satellite. I am sure they could of modified the flight path somehow.
It is Nasa's arrogance, that they do not have to offer more proof of the moon landing, that makes them look guilty.

Either way, within 10 years we should know for sure if Americans were the first to land on the moon. If they did not, the secret can not last forever. If they did, then end this conspiracy theory soon.

When the photographs come of the landers sitting on the surface, will you believe it?

by **BoJangles2** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:52 am

If you don’t believe in the moon landings you might as well put your tin foil hat on now. There is plenty of evidence all over the internet, instead of wasting your time reading conspiracy sites or listening to your conspiracy friends why don’t you proactively search for the proof yourself and tell us about your findings, I know there have been many threads on here dealign wth the moon landings and countless sites dedicated to it.

If you’re still not convinced, maybe you shouldn’t worry about such complex things, and start with something a little easier, like a high school education.

In fact I'm surprised I’ve let you off so lightly, I must be in a good mood.

by **Smersh** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:18 am

Thanks to Speedfreek for posting this link in other threads - the most comprehensive, well organised and easy to follow site I've ever seen explaining why the Apollo missions were not faked is this one: http://www.clavius.org/

Regarding proof from orbiters with images showing the landers and flags etc, I agree that will be good when that happens but sadly, I suspect that many hoax believers will still not believe it. In fact, I'm sure that with some HBs even if they were flown to the Moon themselves and landed right next to one of the Apollo sites they still wouldn't believe it ...

by **MeteorWayne** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:14 am

I am going to merge this into the other Mood Landing faked thread, which I am going to pin for the next few weeks

by **MeteorWayne** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:22 am

OmegaOm wrote:I am in the middle on the belief of Americans men on the moon. There is good evidence both ways. But what really gets me is why we have not seen proof. Japan postponed their moon probe for many years, it even originally had a camera that could resolve the artifacts left by the Apollo astronauts, then they changed it. Now Nasa has a moon probe that supposedly can resolve 1 meter. I seen the striking images a few days ago. Why are they not proving that they were on the moon with this satellite. I am sure they could of modified the flight path somehow.
It is Nasa's arrogance, that they do not have to offer more proof of the moon landing, that makes them look guilty.

Either way, within 10 years we should know for sure if Americans were the first to land on the moon. If they did not, the secret can not last forever. If they did, then end this conspiracy theory soon.

The artifacts left behind on the moon are quite small. LRO will be able to see them (not much detail, just that they are there) when it settles into it's final science orbit in about 45 days, when it passes over the sites. Proving to people who are foolish enough to ignore the mountains of evidence supporting the landing facts is nota high prirityof the mission, though eventually they will image all the sites.

If you have the guts, read through the clavius.org site linked to above. Evry single argument used by the hoax believers is demolished, no rational person could believe in the 6 missions being faked.

It's easy for young people in the fast paced CGI world to ignore real science. For those who watched it live, the idea is a joke.

by **SpeedFreek** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:39 pm

OmegaOm wrote:I am in the middle on the belief of Americans men on the moon. There is good evidence both ways.

There is no good evidence that the moon landings were faked, whatsoever.

by **abq_farside** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:50 pm

OmegaOm wrote:I am in the middle on the belief of Americans men on the moon. There is good evidence both ways. ........

Actually there is not any good evidence to suggest the landing was faked that has not already been debunked. Please show us if you feel differently.

by **jim48** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:19 pm

I was in the hospital the other day for some tests. The young man who was performing the CAT scan procedure got to talking about tv shows and somehow we ended up on the 40th anniversary of the first moon landing. I tried to describe to him just how exciting that was. He smiled and said he'd heard that it might have been faked and he said that with all seriousness and I am not making this up!!! I told him that with a $24 billion budget NASA could have done something far more realistic looking. He said he'd heard from "... a few people" that it was all phony. Kid was in his-mid '30s. :?:

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