Marijuana May Disrupt Brain Development

[SPACEINVADOR]

Mental_avenger, you say you will be ok with people getting high at home, if it becomes legal. But, god forbid they leave their house.

No, not god forbid, the law forbid them to leave their house IF they are under the influence. Please leave religion out of this.

So a person who just smoked a couple hits should give-up their right to life?

No, they don’t have to give up their right to life. That would be unfair. Just give up their right to go out while under the influence.

Make them stay inside like their subhuman and undeserving of any freedom beside staying home?

Not subhuman, just stoned.

They have to give-up their right to go outside? Why?... If a person is not acting disorderly, what is the problem?...

[brandbll]

According to my English-to-Duuuude Dictionary, that's stonerspeak for "Durr, I got nothin'"

It's difficult to make a case to someone who isn't making any real points at all and who's only intention is to simply troll(you've made it obvious you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to this topic). So keep on trolling buddy, but i'm gonna pass on the rest of your moronic comments and insults.

[mental_avenger]

Mental, you crack me up. Try substituting the word "alcohol" for the word pot in all your posts. It is legal, and damages millions of people a lot more. So you are a hypocrit for supporting The System, and The Man.

Not at all. Try brushing up on your reading comprehension skills, or stop smoking pot long enough to read what I have already written. Go ahead and work towards banning alcohol and tobacco too, but not instead of, marijuana.

I could find the case of the kid with the life sentence for a seed, but this one is cool too, I just know what you will say about it...

In the first place, it sounds like the judge is unfairly administering the law. It is hard to imagine the any judge has been given that wide a latitude in handing out sentences. There are usually guidelines in place that must be followed. As I have pointed out many times on these forums, there are more than a few judges who need to be replaced.

However, there is no excuse for the kid participating in an armed robbery, none whatsoever. The amount stolen is irrelevant, and the fact that no one got hurt is probably just luck. Armed robbery is very serious. I am surprised they let the kid off with just probation. But the question is, why did he go ahead and break the law while on probation? What did he think would happen, just more probation? There are consequences to doing wrong things, and he sure found out what those were.

The incomplete version on talkleft left out a few details. Brown was in trouble before, including riding in a stolen car as sexual offenses. It claims he was tested positive for drugs, not that the smoked once. He had also been warned by the judge who let him out on probation that the sentence would be much harsher if he violated probation. He knew the law. He was warned. He was a habitual troublemaker and criminal. He violated his probation. He was taken out of society. BTW, his partner in crime also ended up with a life sentence after a few more crimes. Same judge.

IOW, IMO you were disingenuous to post the incomplete slanted version and try to use it to make a point.

[doom_shepherd]

According to my English-to-Duuuude Dictionary, that's stonerspeak for "Durr, I got nothin'"

It's difficult to make a case to someone who isn't making any real points at all and who's only intention is to simply troll(you've made it obvious you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to this topic). So keep on trolling buddy, but i'm gonna pass on the rest of your moronic comments and insults.

It says that's stonerspeak for "I can't form a coherent counterargument, so I'm gonna namecall instead."

You poor boy, I can back up everything I said.

DUUUDE. All secondhand smoke is carcinogenic. Only the hardcore nicotene addicts still deny that one.

Marijuana smoke is known to have MORE carcinogens, but that fact is offset somewhat by the fact that it's also smoked less often by its users. (though who's to say that wouldn't change if it were legalized and thuisly safe to do so?)
"The smoking of 3-4 cannabis cigarettes a day is associated with the same degree of damage to bronchial mucus membranes as 20 or more tobacco cigarettes a day,"

Even NORML itself has recognized that driving under the influence of pot poses an increased risk of accident. Perhaps not as much as alcohol, but also clearly more than driving while sober.

You're behind the times, kiddo!

As for your sense of smell... there's nothing I can do about that. Just like a smoker, you probably got used to the reek and can't notice it anymore. I, however, can smell a pot user about a half-a-dorm away.

So, like I said... YOU GOT NOTHING, oh mighty king of "moronic statements."

However, I am a big fan of feudal Japan, so you may regain your honor by committing seppuku.

[mental_avenger]

brand: MENTAL IS BUSTED.

For saying heads do violence. Sorry, not like drinkers at pool halls or bars that get in fights.

Where did I say that?

[SPACEINVADOR]

Most of the people who are arrested for driving under the influence are the drinkers. Stoners don't get pulled over cause they drive respectfully, cautiously and they aren't impaired like drunks.

In our local paper, there is a police log that shows the number of arrest for DUI (drunk drivers). I have never... seen a person arrested solely for driving high.

There are at least half a dozen crosses at different parts of the major highway here where someone lost their life on the road. Almost every one of them was due to a drunk driver, and one was a girl on her cell phone. But, not one was caused from a person on pot.

[mental_avenger]

They have to give-up their right to go outside? Why?... If a person is not acting disorderly, what is the problem?...

I’m not trying to sell you on the idea, you aren’t buying anyhow. If you don’t like my opinion, that’s ok. IMO it would be ok for people to use marijuana in their own homes IF, (and that is a big IF) it could be guaranteed that they would remain home while under the influence.

[brandbll]

Most of the people who are arrested for driving under the influence are the drinkers. Stoners don't get pulled over cause they drive respectfully, cautiously and they aren't impaired like drunks.

In our local paper, there is a police log that shows the number of arrest for DUI (drunk drivers). I have never... seen a person arrested solely for driving high.

There are at least half a dozen crosses at different parts of the major highway here where someone lost their life on the road. Almost every one of them was due to a drunk driver, and one was a girl on her cell phone. But, not one was caused from a person on pot.

Yes, dumb people talking on cell phones and driving is much more dangerous than someone smoking and then driving. I almost got T-boned by this dumb chatty cathy who just plowed through a stop sign today.

[SPACEINVADOR]

Most of the people who are arrested for driving under the influence are the drinkers. Stoners don't get pulled over cause they drive respectfully, cautiously and they aren't impaired like drunks.

In our local paper, there is a police log that shows the number of arrest for DUI (drunk drivers). I have never... seen a person arrested solely for driving high.

There are at least half a dozen crosses at different parts of the major highway here where someone lost their life on the road. Almost every one of them was due to a drunk driver, and one was a girl on her cell phone. But, not one was caused from a person on pot.

Yes, dumb people talking on cell phones and driving is much more dangerous than someone smoking and then driving. I almost got T-boned by this dumb chatty cathy who just plowed through a stop sign today.

I witness crap like that everyday. At the beginning of next year it will be finally... illegal here and the fine is going to high $$$.

[doom_shepherd]

Most of the people who are arrested for driving under the influence are the drinkers. Stoners don't get pulled over cause they drive respectfully, cautiously and they aren't impaired like drunks.

In our local paper, there is a police log that shows the number of arrest for DUI (drunk drivers). I have never... seen a person arrested solely for driving high.

There are at least half a dozen crosses at different parts of the major highway here where someone lost their life on the road. Almost every one of them was due to a drunk driver, and one was a girl on her cell phone. But, not one was caused from a person on pot.

"The plural of anecdote is not data." They say that on the Urban Legends sites all the time.

Actual studies (as opposed to these claims you do not provide any evidence to support) suggest otherwise.

On average, when someone is pulled over for reckless driving, and there is no evidence of alcohol use there is a 30-45% chance that they will test positive for marijuana.

In a 1990 report, the National Transportation Safety Board studied 182 fatal truck accidents. It found that 12.5% of the accidents were caused by drivers using marijuana.

[SPACEINVADOR]

They have to give-up their right to go outside? Why?... If a person is not acting disorderly, what is the problem?...

I’m not trying to sell you on the idea, you aren’t buying anyhow. If you don’t like my opinion, that’s ok. IMO it would be ok for people to use marijuana in their own homes IF, (and that is a big IF) it could be guaranteed that they would remain home while under the influence.

If your opinion had no possible bearing on me, I'd really care less. But, it is people like you and your opinions that try their best to infringe on my God given liberties. And like I asked, what is the problem with people being so called "stoned/high" while walking the dog if they are not being disorderly?...

[ZenGalacticore]

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[ZenGalacticore]

In the first place, it sounds like the judge is unfairly administering the law. It is hard to imagine the any judge has been given that wide a latitude in handing out sentences. There are usually guidelines in place that must be followed.

True. At least it is for most states. Texas may be an exception, and I have heard horror stories about "Texas justice." But as far as I know or have read, no judge can arbitrarily sentence someone to life in prison for such a trifling thing. That's a bit hard to believe. And they do have guidelines for different sets of violations or crimes.

[mental_avenger]

And like I asked, what is the problem with people being so called "stoned/high" while walking the dog if they are not being disorderly?...

What is the problem with people driving drunk if they obey the traffic laws and don’t hit anyone?

[SPACEINVADOR]

And like I asked, what is the problem with people being so called "stoned/high" while walking the dog if they are not being disorderly?...

What is the problem with people driving drunk if they obey the traffic laws and don’t hit anyone?

You are completely dodging a legitimate question based on your belief, that people who get high should not be permitted to go outside. How did my walking the dog question have anything to do with someone driving?

People who get stoned shouldn't be permitted to anything but veg, right? You want to force that upon them. You are 100% irrational and illogical.

[SPACEINVADOR]

BTW, your avatar is that of the bad guy. Lol!

[mental_avenger]

You are 100% irrational and illogical.

Opinions vary.

[SPACEINVADOR]

You are 100% irrational and illogical.

Opinions vary.

In this case, it is not an opinion. Those words perfectly describe how you are.

[ZenGalacticore]

And like I asked, what is the problem with people being so called "stoned/high" while walking the dog if they are not being disorderly?...

What is the problem with people driving drunk if they obey the traffic laws and don’t hit anyone?

Walking the dog while stoned is hardly comparable to driving drunk.

[brandbll]

And like I asked, what is the problem with people being so called "stoned/high" while walking the dog if they are not being disorderly?...

What is the problem with people driving drunk if they obey the traffic laws and don’t hit anyone?

Oh Lord of Logical Fallicies, thou has just committed one...