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Posted on: Buzz Aldrin did not like the Ares 1-X
at 11/14/2009 10:25pm

That's the problem here! more(+)

Booban"]I don't quite know where they are heading to as they pass us by,

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Posted on: Buzz Aldrin did not like the Ares 1-X
at 11/14/2009 10:16pm

First off you are going off on a total tangent here…

Burt Rutan will no doubt go down in the history books… and for ... more(+)

First off you are going off on a total tangent here…

Burt Rutan will no doubt go down in the history books… and for the most part… he already has… and he’s not even dead yet.

He might even get to LEO... who knows...

But getting beyond that is a quantum leap from suborbital flight

As far as SpaceX and Orbital Sciences, I hope nothing but the best for them every time they launch! I am most definitely rooting for them!

The sample size of launches for SpaceX is (4)... and not to mention the outcome and the of those launches... you need at least a sample size of 7 to have anything that is statistically tangible!

Do you know what a gamble is booban

Private companies launching Astronauts into LEO anytime soon are at best a HUGE GAMBLE!  close(-)

Posted on: Buzz Aldrin did not like the Ares 1-X
at 11/14/2009 6:30pm

NASA’s merit has nothing to do with it… ya got Russia, China, India, the EAU and Japan that will either pass the U.S. ... more(+)

NASA’s merit has nothing to do with it… ya got Russia, China, India, the EAU and Japan that will either pass the U.S. by or we can spend what is needed to make sure that doesn’t happen. It’s that simple.  close(-)

Posted on: Buzz Aldrin did not like the Ares 1-X
at 11/14/2009 10:18am

OMG!

NASA’s budgetary cost as compared to the United States GDP in 2009 was only 0.55%, and as it looks right now it ... more(+)

Booban wrote:

jakethesnake wrote:"Obviously we don't have the money” OMG!

NASA’s budgetary cost as compared to the United States GDP in 2009 was only 0.55%, and as it looks right now it will only be 0.52% in 2010…

If you were going to invest in any company, and when you look at that companies prospectus and did not see at least 4% of that company’s total earnings going into R&D… then you are most likely looking at a company that is not long for this world…

Japans defense budget is just 1% of its GDP. Europe its not much higher than 2%. 1/2 a percent of a countries GDP is a absolutely huge proportion for just a single mission. The space program really shouldn't expect anything more than this.

I do not know what the number is, but a significant portion of NASA's budget isn't even about space, but aviation. To me, aviation and space are two different things and ought to be separated.

And its not comparable to an R&D budget, NASA's budget is not purely for R&D and there is another part of the budget for that, not to mention that it is actually private companies that should pay for their own R&D isn't it.

I did not want this to become a thesis, my point was to show what meager portion NASA gets, and as far as the percentage of GDP… actually my numbers would be incorrect, I should have said that NASA is getting $17.318 Billion dollars or .55% of $2.6 Trillion dollars of the (United States Federal Budget) not the (GDP).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Budget

If compared to the United States GDP, which is projected to be $14.7 Trillion dollars in 2009; NASA’s budget is actually only about 0.10% of that.

Europes Military Budget = 2 % or about $62 Billion. for NASA.

Japan's Military Budget = 1% or about $31 Billion for NASA

Also, I think comparing NASA as it relates to R&D is a very good comparison and/or analogy as compared to U.S. corporate structure, keeping in mind in this analogy I am not forgetting the other things such as Physics, Astronomy, medicine and many other cutting edge sciences.

As far as Military budgets goes… check out what the U.S. spends… and NASA gets what???

The federally budgeted (see below) military expenditure of the United States Department of Defense for fiscal year 2009.

Total Base Spending of the U.S. Military for 2009 = $515.4 billion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_b ... ted_States

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Posted on: Buzz Aldrin did not like the Ares 1-X
at 11/13/2009 11:32pm

[b:3jeqa5vd]"Obviously we don't have the money”[/b:3jeqa5vd] OMG!

NASA’s budgetary cost as compared to the ... more(+)

"Obviously we don't have the money” OMG!

NASA’s budgetary cost as compared to the United States Federal Budget in 2009 was only 0.55%, and as it looks right now it will only be 0.52% in 2010…

If you were going to invest in any company, and when you look at that companies prospectus and did not see at least 4% of that company’s total earnings going into R&D… then you are most likely looking at a company that is not long for this world…

Also, I don’t see how anyone can get by the fact that an SRB has an order of magnitude less moving parts than any liquid rocket out there, and to say you can’t throttle down an SRB… Good God you are kidding me right???

BOOM is BOOM and DEAD is DEAD!

From an engineering standpoint less moving parts is a more simple design… not very easy to get by that one.

As Far as the MONEY GOES:

This great stimulus package that support such thing as $2 million for neon signs in Las Vegas, $4.5 million for an eco park featuring butterfly gardens and gopher tortoises, $500,000 for a dog park, $3 million for a municipal golf course clubhouse, $886,000 for a 36-hole disc golf course, $1.8 million for replacement tennis courts, $6 million for three aquatic centers with water slides…

And the list goes on, and on, and on, and on…

I would think we could find the cash if we truly wanted to right

I wonder where we would be if it wasn’t for the push towards the MOON in the 60s ?

Maybe somewhere in the early 1980s technologically???

God that would suck to have to carry around a 25 pound ipod!

Sorry , Just a little venting... I couldn’t help myself…  close(-)

Commented on: Steve Squyres: Robot Guy Says Humans Should Go To Mars
at 2009-07-15 13:49:12

NASA should build the infrastructure of space as well as use program like COTS to encourage private industry.

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Commented on: Space Travel Is a Real Headache
at 2009-06-02 16:19:36

Very limited information%u2026 is this something that goes away over time%u2026 say 6 months on the ISS?

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